discussion
Russian Translation(s) & Details for 'discussion'
English Word: discussion
Key Russian Translations:
- обсуждение (IPA: ɐbsʊˈʐdenʲɪje) - [Informal, Common]
- дискуссия (IPA: dʲɪskʊˈssʲɪjə) - [Formal, Used in debates or academic contexts]
Frequency: Medium - This word and its translations are commonly encountered in everyday conversations, media, and professional settings, but not as ubiquitous as basic vocabulary.
Difficulty: B1 (Intermediate) - Based on CEFR standards, learning these translations involves understanding noun inflections and context; for "обсуждение," it's straightforward for intermediates, while "дискуссия" may require more advanced exposure to formal language.
Pronunciation (Russian):
обсуждение: ɐbsʊˈʐdenʲɪje
дискуссия: dʲɪskʊˈssʲɪjə
Note on обсуждение: The stress is on the third syllable ("den"), and the "zh" sound (ʐ) can be challenging for English speakers; practice it as in "measure." Variations in regional accents may soften the vowels.
Note on дискуссия: Pronounce the initial "d" as soft (palatalized), similar to "dy" in "dune." The ending "ия" is often reduced in fast speech.
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Meanings and Usage:
Meaning 1: A conversation or exchange of ideas on a particular topic.
Translation(s) & Context:
- обсуждение - Used in informal or everyday contexts, such as casual talks or group meetings.
- дискуссия - Applied in formal settings like conferences, debates, or academic discussions.
Usage Examples:
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Мы провели интересное обсуждение вчера вечером. (We had an interesting discussion last night.)
Translation: We had an interesting discussion last night. (This example shows "обсуждение" in a neutral, everyday context.)
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В университете часто организуют дискуссии по актуальным проблемам. (At the university, they often organize discussions on current issues.)
Translation: At the university, they often organize discussions on current issues. (Here, "дискуссия" is used in an educational setting, highlighting its formal tone.)
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Обсуждение проекта заняло весь день, но мы достигли共识. (The discussion of the project took the whole day, but we reached a consensus.)
Translation: The discussion of the project took the whole day, but we reached a consensus. (Demonstrates "обсуждение" with genitive case for "project," showing grammatical variation.)
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Эта дискуссия была слишком эмоциональной и не принесла результатов. (This discussion was too emotional and didn't yield results.)
Translation: This discussion was too emotional and didn't yield results. (Illustrates "дискуссия" in a potentially heated or professional context.)
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В онлайн-форумах часто возникают обсуждения на политические темы. (Discussions on political topics often arise in online forums.)
Translation: Discussions on political topics often arise in online forums. (Shows "обсуждения" in plural form, adapting to digital contexts.)
Meaning 2: A formal debate or argument.
Translation(s) & Context:
- дискуссия - Primarily used for structured debates, such as in politics or academia.
- обсуждение - Less formal, but can imply a debate in casual settings.
Usage Examples:
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Дискуссия на конференции была очень продуктивной. (The discussion at the conference was very productive.)
Translation: The discussion at the conference was very productive. (Emphasizes "дискуссия" in a professional event.)
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Обсуждение идей в команде помогло избежать конфликтов. (The discussion of ideas in the team helped avoid conflicts.)
Translation: The discussion of ideas in the team helped avoid conflicts. (Uses "обсуждение" to show collaborative, problem-solving contexts.)
Russian Forms/Inflections:
Both primary translations are nouns. "Обсуждение" is a neuter noun, while "дискуссия" is a feminine noun. Russian nouns inflect for case, number, and gender. Below is a table outlining key inflections:
Form | Обсуждение (Neuter) | Дискуссия (Feminine) |
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Nominative Singular | обсуждение | дискуссия |
Genitive Singular | обсуждения | дискуссии |
Dative Singular | обсуждению | дискуссии |
Accusative Singular | обсуждение | дискуссию |
Instrumental Singular | обсуждением | дискуссией |
Prepositional Singular | обсуждении | дискуссии |
Nominative Plural | обсуждения | дискуссии |
Note: These follow standard Russian declension patterns for their genders. "Обсуждение" is regular, while "дискуссия" (as a loanword) may have slight irregularities in some cases but generally adheres to feminine patterns.
Russian Synonyms/Antonyms:
- Synonyms:
- разговор (razgovor) - More general, for any conversation; less formal than обсуждение.
- беседа (beseda) - Implies a friendly, informal chat.
- Antonyms:
- молчание (molchanie) - Silence, the opposite of active discussion.
- согласие (soglasie) - Agreement, contrasting with debated discussion.
Related Phrases:
- Вести обсуждение (Vesti obsuzhdenie) - To lead a discussion; means initiating and guiding a conversation.
- Принять участие в дискуссии (Prinjat' uchastie v diskussii) - To take part in a discussion; used for active involvement in debates.
- Открытая дискуссия (Otkrytaya diskussiya) - Open discussion; implies transparency and public exchange of ideas.
Usage Notes:
Use "обсуждение" for everyday, informal contexts where "discussion" means a casual exchange, as it's more neutral and widely applicable. "Дискуссия" is better for formal or intellectual settings, akin to "debate" in English, and often carries a connotation of structured argument. Be mindful of noun cases in sentences; for example, in prepositional phrases, use the prepositional case (e.g., "в обсуждении" for "in the discussion"). When choosing between translations, consider the audience: "обсуждение" suits general conversation, while "дискуссия" is ideal for professional or academic writing.
Common Errors:
- Confusing cases: English learners often use the nominative form everywhere, e.g., saying "обсуждение проекта" incorrectly in contexts requiring genitive. Correct: "Обсуждение проекта" is fine in nominative, but in "говорить об обсуждение," it should be "об обсуждении" (prepositional). Error example: "Я участвую в обсуждение" (wrong); Correct: "Я участвую в обсуждении".
- Overusing formal terms: Beginners might default to "дискуссия" for all discussions, making speech sound overly stiff. Tip: Reserve it for debates; use "обсуждение" for casual talks.
Cultural Notes:
In Russian culture, discussions ("обсуждения" or "дискуссии") often emphasize collective input and may involve more indirect communication to maintain harmony, especially in professional settings. Historically, public discussions during Soviet times were highly regulated, influencing modern connotations of "дискуссия" as a tool for ideological exchange.
Related Concepts:
- дебаты (debates)
- конференция (conference)
- диалог (dialogue)